Which one?

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 09/29/2014 at 15:29 • Filed to: None

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Shocked myself a little last night when looking up excursions so I thought I would share, with a question. Which of these two can carry more weight?

a 3.6 liter Jeep grand cherokee 4x4

a 7.3 liter turbodiesel Excursions 4x4

GVWR (6500) - Curb (4995) = Payload of 1505 for the Jeep

GVWR (9200) - Curb (7725) = payload of 1475 for the Ford.

I kind of wonder if there was a cap on the GVWR for the FORD, or if its sheer lardiness is what did it, but if you put 9 150 people in the Ford and filled it with fuel your overweight by 130 lbs. So much mass, signifying nothing.

Granted, its combined gross axle weight rating is over 12000 lbs so it would probably be just fine, but its interesting, at least it is to me.

Party_in_the_USA > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 15:30

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Did you divide by zero?

CAR_IS_MI > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 15:33

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Well the Excursion is just an F250 platform so thats honestly not too surprising. I don't think they upgraded the GVWR on the 250 to 9900 until the next gen platform.

HammerheadFistpunch > CAR_IS_MI 09/29/2014 at 15:41

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1475 is pathetic for something that big, but again, I have to wonder why its under rated.

CAR_IS_MI > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 15:47

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Well the problem is, you take an F250, add more doors, a big, solid rear cabin area, more seats, etc. and now you have increased the curb weight so much that your payload has to go down. Realistically, they should have used the F350 chassis of the time which had a 10,200 GVWR and would have allowed for the larger payload. No that it matters, the only ones buying Excursions were soccer moms who needed room for their 9 overweight children and the groceries for aforementioned kids and bros who needed to have the biggest, baddest, lifted SUV out there so they could spend 10 minutes squeezing into the smallest parking spot in front of the gym, tanning salon, or laundry mat...

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 15:53

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The GVWR for the excursion has to be wildly underrated. I'm thinking they did it for some sort of regulatory reason.

HammerheadFistpunch > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 09/29/2014 at 15:55

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That was my first thought as well. With a GAWR of 6830 in the rear alone there is clearly strength in the axles at least. Though with GVWR, its not always the axles that are the limiting factor.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 15:59

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yeah my guess would be its suspension limited, they probably wanted to soften things up for passenger duty. Even still I think there is a regulatory reason for keeping GVWR so low.

oldirtybootz > HammerheadFistpunch 09/29/2014 at 16:58

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I saw several of them yesterday. I'm not even a diesel guy but I want a 7.3 Excursion so bad.